American Standard8012A60GRC-020 Advanced Clean 2.5 SpaLet Bidet Seat with Remote Control, White
D**R
Nice addition to the bathroom
I am a female in her 60s and I was able to install this on my own in about 15 minutes. Very quick and easy install! The seat takes some getting used to since the mechanics of the bidet are in back, you sit with what feels like a little tilt and this also creates a smaller opening than what you may be used to....small overall adjustment. The upward flow isn't a heavy as I would prefer but being an add-on, I guess it's as much as can be expected. The warming of the water is immediate and you definitely have to have an electrical outlet close to your toilet (luckily, I do). The nozzel movement isn't noticable to me so I have to adjust myself to have the water "hit the right spot" in the front region. I honestly went back and forth trying to decide if I wanted to keep it or not. I decided to keep it since I don't think other models will be much of an improvement and American Standard is a trusted name in toilets.
R**H
this product stinks
we bought two units trusting that the product would work as advertised. The positive experience was the support provided by Amazon installation support otherwise this is a product that stinks. Two units bought a year ago never worked as advertised, support from American Standard is non existent and it is a waste of anyone's money to buy and install this product.
S**R
No toilet paper no problem!
This has got to be one of the best purchases I’ve ever made. I always say that will be a sign of when I have “arrived” is when I own a bidet. That day is here! I recommend to everyone! No need for toilet paper in the apocalypse!!!
T**T
Seat won’t stay up
My first go with American Standard products. I bought this bidet seat cover and a toilet for a bathroom remodel. The seat and cover will not stay up. Unfortunately I just installed it and I missed the return/replace date, so I am stuck with a ridiculously expensive bidet and a very expensive American Standard Toilet that I only purchased to go with this bidet seat.
M**E
I still have questions.
Update 16 Nov 19Upgrading to 5 stars from 4 basically because my conscience got the best of me. Now that I am fully comfortable with the fact that this has been an upgrade in every way, I can still see some minor areas for improvement, but I cannot imagine getting a better bidet experience. And this product is definitely nicer in your own house than it is in public or a hotel.Power:I probably don't need to tell you that adding a power outlet for this thing is by far the most difficult part of installation. Not normally a big deal for me, the placement of the desired outlet for this project was in the far lower corner of the bathroom, surrounded by plumbing, and had to fit between oddly-placed studs and random plumbing, both inside the wall and out. And I try to keep each room on an individual circuit, so that made it a little more difficult as well. A lot of people have tile in their bathrooms and many have not expected to need an outlet behind the toilet. So this was an all-day affair with a lot of cursing. Of course, had I been doing this in my downstairs bathroom, it would have taken only a half hour. Just something to keep in mind.Installation:Besides that, installation was a breeze - perhaps self-explanatory. The hardware and hoses they give you are excellent, much better than add-on, non-electric bidets that I've installed. However, even though they make it a point to give you good instructions with pictures, I found the instructions were not quite as perfect as a lot of US consumers might want.One thing that I'm still not sure about is this: they give you great rubber bushings to protect your porcelain and hold the mounting bracket to the toilet, but they extend past the bottom of the porcelain and I do not perceive any expectation that you will cut the bushings to length and add nylon nuts to hold those bolts in place past the reasonable holding power of the included bushings. Because of this, the mounting bracket that is so well thought out - and allows for easy removal (for cleaning) as well as perfecting the depth of installation so the seat and lid stay up for male #1 - has some wiggle. This play can be frustrating when it seems to impede the seat staying up for male #1. And I don't like play in any fastened product. It sort of defeats the purpose of that adjustable bracket. I may flush-cut the bushings and add the (previously-removed from legacy seat) nylon nuts.Technology/Porting/Men's Issues:It does appear that American Standard leveraged their parent company to port this directly from Japan (obviously with a 120V, 60Hz electrical requirement). I was delighted to see the standard wash hitting a butt/woman drawings on the buttons. I've seen "cuter" in Japan and Korea, but I was surprised these made it over here. I've long been infatuated with the amazing and unique product designs coming out of Japan (especially in tools) and the direct engineering for simple but desired results. But many of Japan's creations are made for the domestic market. Case in point is that a lot of nicer Japanese houses have a urinal. And my top priority in a bigger house (with bigger bathrooms) will be to install urinals in every bathroom I use regularly. If I had room for a urinal in the bathroom where this is installed, I would truly love the seat as well as the urinal. The one thing I don't love about the seat is that it always seems just a little awkward to put the seat up for male #1. And it gives you less room for targeting than you had before. But it's not detrimental unless you're a real slob, or if a real slob will be using your toilet (consider where you put it...I keep imagining that pretentious "bucket" lady from "Keeping Up Appearances" installing this downstairs in the powder room to show off her "more-expensive-than-Bill-Clinton's" toilet seat, only for her brother Onslow to come over and get confused, use the sink instead).Despite this, you see these even in small, unisex public bathrooms in Japan, so obviously male #1 is not a problem. Just takes some getting used to in my own house.Euro-Lid:Do you see how the sides of the toilet cover completely cover the lid? In most cases, I absolutely hate this beyond belief (thinking about hotels in Europe). So now, not only do I have to touch the seat and/or lid for both #'s, but so do any women I'm sharing with. Why should a woman now have the burden of lifting the lid just to use the seat (because a man cannot easily put the seat down without also putting the lid down)? Anyway, the soft-close lid thing - and of course the fact that this is a private toilet if installed in your house - really negates that issue, and I don't mind it at all.I had a fancy toilet in a hotel in Italy once that had buttons on the remote to raise and lower the lid and seat. Of course they were broken so I assumed it was an Italian-made seat. After looking at some more models online, I think it may have been an either poorly-installed or abused and broken Japanese model. Even so, that feature would be much appreciated (assuming it worked and was installed correctly).Operation:The one thing that sort of bothers me (as an Engineer who wants to fully understand everything) is that some of the functionality is not completely spelled out in the instructions, and the instructions are sometimes ambiguous. The instructions were translated from Japanese well grammatically (not like a lot of Chinese products where much of it is barely decipherable), but perhaps the person who went through to put the finishing touches on the grammar didn't fully understand the product. One place in the manual, they talk about the stop button as if it is the power button.But what is still holding me up is this: one place in the manual makes it sound like the heated seat will not come on unless the occupancy sensor is activated, but another place says that closing the lid will help conserve energy (I'm thinking because it acts as an insulator, making me think the heat is always on). There is also an eco mode which essentially turns the seat off for 8 hours. And of course you can just turn it on/off before and after each use, which is what I have been doing because I can't stand the thought of this unit sucking down electricity all day for no reason (I do know that the water heater is on demand, so that shouldn't be an issue). So even though the manual has a spec sheet that lists the electrical demands of individual features, I want it to spell out everything for me, so I know which mode to set it at. If I knew it would draw only a tenth of a watt to leave the occupancy sensor on with the power, then I would leave it on all day and eliminate two button presses with each use. So I may ask the question here on Amazon and hope the manufacturer responds directly.Even so, most features are pretty much self-explanatory, and you can figure it out just from buttons on the remote. Everything in that case seems to work as the instruction manual describes, although the rear cleansing water stream strength does not seem to use the LEDs nearby (but the nozzle positioning buttons do) as I expected. You can tell the strength buttons work and a double-beep tells you that you're at the top or low end of the range, though. I also am not sure I can tell the difference - or if the difference exists - between straight water and oscillating, although the "massage" feature does work as expected.Nightlight:The nightlight feature is cool, but you have to press a button to turn it on or off. Would make more sense if you could schedule it for nighttime if you decided leaving the power on all the time was a good idea. Also, if you remember when Gene from "Bob's Burgers" found that talking toilet in the woods, its nightlight came on when it sensed you approaching...seems like a good idea. But actually, I would love it if you could use that as the nightlight for the whole bathroom if it would only come on (automatically) when appropriate.Deodorizer:This I still don't get. It seems like it just sucks air out of the bowl and into the rest of the bathroom. Through some filter that can be washed and eventually replaced, although I have no idea how one would obtain a replacement. You can turn this feature off. To me, it just seems like you're putting the smell in the room instead of the bowl. If you turn your bathroom fan on every time you use the toilet, this may be effective in clearing the room for the next person; otherwise, I'm not sure using it is really doing any favors for yourself. This feature, unless disabled, activates whenever the occupancy sensor is activated.Looks and Positioning:Not a bad looking bathroom addition, but it is larger than your existing and it takes some getting used to. It is for elongated toilets only - I think some smaller, round bowls would be too small to support this properly. It does line up correctly with the front and back of my bowl (but like I said, decreases usable bowl size). You end up sitting up just slightly straighter, but I'm already used to that.More Random Thoughts:The occupancy sensor requires weight be on the seat, so a lot of major body repositioning could cause the unit to work less smoothly than expected (if you keep turning it on and off inadvertently).Cleansing and bidet functions are quick, but not instant like pressure-only add-ons.Even with turning power on and off, the unit seems to remember the nozzle, water temperature, and seat temperature settings from one use to the next. However, the blow dryer always comes on at medium, so get used to pressing the button twice if you like it at high.Blow dryer definitely reduces paper usage, but will not eliminate it unless you want to sit there for a while extra.Conclusion:It all really is a big change. And it's stressful in a way because it's a lot of money (and potential headaches during power installation) for something that takes getting used to rather than something you immediately know you can't live without. Worth noting is that I've long had pressure-only (no electric) bidets on my toilets, and a bidet is something I no longer want to live without. This seat's upgraded features are cool and of course I have no regrets, but it's a real decision. I'm telling you this so you understand that other options exist (but unheated water on other options can be a slight shock in the winter).
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