MSR Whisperlite 11782

Bought this to replace one I have had since the mid 1980's, that somehow went missing in our last move. I have taken the old one all over the continual US, up to 14,000 feet. New one appears to be identical to my original one. It simply works, so why change it?I imagine there are now lighter choices, but this stove still outputs more Btu's of heat than anything comparable, certainly more than the cute little isobutane stoves. Ounce per ounce of fuel, this stove puts out more Btu's than stoves using propane or isobutane canisters, so having to carry multiple fuel canisters on those propane/isobutane stoves may decrease their advantage somewhat in the weight category. Basic physics - the fuel is heavier but there is more energy density in it.I have found my small fuel bottle (don't remember the size) lasts me at least 4 days backpacking solo. My son and I used this stove and my medium sized bottle for a 3 day trip in December and it was about 40% full when we came back. Cleaning a clogged orifice is as simple as shutting the stove off and shaking it, so that the internal nozzle pin cleans out the orifice. It can be taken apart with nothing but the flat screwdriver on a Swiss Army knife, field repaired, put back into use. Dirt simple. Repair kits are available, which likely won't be needed for about 15-20 years, at least based on my old stove.You can use unleaded gasoline in it, but Coleman lantern fuel or its non-Coleman equivalent works better. I have seen proprietary "super clean" fuel in little tiny $$$ cans intended for this stove, and marketed for it, but I have never seen the need. A gallon of Coleman fuel or equivalent is relatively cheap and lasts a very long time, especially if you make sure the cap is tight on the metal can when not in use. It doesn't "spoil" the way old gasoline does. Much easier to find fuel for it than the isobutane canisters. Because of how it's made it does like to run wide open. This is not a stove that does simmer very well. I have found though that with some experience you can get it to run at lower output by not pumping up the fuel bottle pressure too high. This takes some practice. Lighting one of these the first time puts some people off - you release a tiny bit of fuel, shut the flow off, then light the fuel which makes a pretty big flame that heats up the fuel atomizer. Once it is hot and the flames die down a bit you turn the valve open again and it starts working. An isobutane stove certainly is less fussy. I heard someone once remark that they would never use one because lighting it inside a tent was scary. But you shouldn't be using a stove inside a flammable tent that you are also inside of in the first place.And you might get a tiny bit of fuel on your fingers while connecting/disconnecting the fuel canister.The good :Reliable, simple, seemingly indestructiblefuel available at any camping store, many large department stores, gas pump in an emergency, and is cheapEfficient heat for the amount of fuel consumedOutputs more heat than any other camping stove of comparable size. If you are on a long packing trip, cooking for several people, or melting snow for water this is the one to getThe bad:It likes to run at wide open or not at all. "Simmer" is hard to achieve, although not pumping the pressure higher than needed helps somewhatYou could get a drop of fuel on your hands while connecting/disconnecting fuel bottleLighting one the first time is scary to some people.Probably heaver than newer styles of stove, although carrying multiple fuel cannisters on propane/isobutane stoves may offset that

My first stove lasted 25 years- till I stepped on it. I’m looking forward to another 25. In the dead of winter, when my 0 down bag is cold and I am solo- with one quick move, I have hot coffee and new life.

The stove is great, however the picture displayed does make it seem like the fuel bottle is included.Needs a clear explanation that it is not.

The new version with the child-proof top is very difficult to open. Why? Child-proof bottle is not new why does this one work so terribly?

I have two of these l, had themsince I was in the Boy Scouts in the 90s. We used the crap out of them. You just need the orifice cleaning tool and a pump repair kit just to be prepared. Have hundreds of hours of used. Most of it by ham fisted teenagers. I still now use them with my own kids.The stove can be broken down and cleaned easily, though you don't have to do it often.The fact that the design from the original to the most recent design is very similar shows how well designed this stove is.I love the new design stoves, but I really hate the waste of the fuel cannisters. Just my preference.Most backpacking stoves do not include a bottle. Giving one star to a legendary piece of equipment because you can't read the description is a shining example of ignorance.

Still using the one I bought in Eugene, OR in 1992.